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		<title>Ten Years</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian McKellar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ten years ago Netscape released the source code to their browser. They called it Mozilla, I downloaded and built it at my work at the time. I didn&#8217;t manage to build it immediately, but I worked it out in the end.
Somehow I&#8217;ve spent most of the past seven years working with the platform. I touched [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ten years ago <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape">Netscape</a> released the source code to their browser. They called it <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/">Mozilla</a>, I downloaded and built it at my <a href="http://www.harvestroad.com.au/">work</a> at the time. I didn&#8217;t manage to build it immediately, but I worked it out in the end.</p>
<p>Somehow I&#8217;ve spent most of the past seven years working with the platform. I touched on it at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eazel">Eazel</a> where we used Gecko to display HTML, but mostly left the hard work of integrating a barely-ready gtkmozembed to Mike and Ramiro</p>
<p>Then at <a href="http://www.danger.com/">Danger</a> I ended up as the main engineer working on our licensed fork of the <a href="http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/gribble/press/ncworld/ncw-01-proxinet.html">ProxiWeb web proxy</a> (love those innovative names) which used Mozilla (circa M6 or M8 I think) on Solaris x86 to format web pages for display on hiptops and Sidekicks. Later we built our own web proxy based on Mozilla 1.3, following a similar model but with all the lessons we learned maintaining the old code for years.</p>
<p>Eventually I ran away with the circus as one of the first employees at <a href="http://www.flock.com/">Flock</a> where we were trying to re-imagine the desktop browser experience, based on Firefox. After a couple of years struggling with vision and execution they worked it out &#8211; soon after I left. Now it&#8217;s showing the potential of moving beyond the dominant Mosaic-with-tabs user experience that the main players are following.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m at <a href="http://www.songbirdnest.com/">Songbird</a>, building another kind of browser &#8211; one whose focus is integrating media consumption and management. We&#8217;re building on XULRunner, the application platform that has been spun out from the Mozilla applications. It&#8217;s not my favorite platform for building applications, but how else are you going to build a cross-platform web browser.</p>
<p>Somehow this passing interest I had ten years ago has turned into a career.</p>
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		<title>I told you so</title>
		<link>http://ianloic.com/2008/03/24/i-told-you-so/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian McKellar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Six months ago I predicted:
This kind of bundling is often done by the bad guys. If you install Appleâ€™s Quicktime codecs on Windows every update will trigger an iTunes install, even if you havenâ€™t installed iTunes. Iâ€™m sure theyâ€™ll do the same thing for Safari on Windows. Iâ€™m not sure what iTunesâ€™ market share on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ianloic.com/2007/08/01/mozillas_missed_opportunities/">Six months ago I predicted</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>This kind of bundling is often done by the bad guys. If you install Appleâ€™s Quicktime codecs on Windows every update will trigger an iTunes install, even if you havenâ€™t installed iTunes. Iâ€™m sure theyâ€™ll do the same thing for Safari on Windows. Iâ€™m not sure what iTunesâ€™ market share on Windows is but it seems to be significant. If all those users suddenly have Safari installed that could potentially cause a big shake-up in browser market share.</p></blockquote>
<p>On Friday there was a <a href="http://john.jubjubs.net/2008/03/21/apple-software-update/">minor</a> <a href="http://john.jubjubs.net/2008/03/23/on-competition/">shitstorm</a> on <a href="http://planet.mozilla.org/">planet.mozilla.org</a> about <a href="http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2008/03/apple_pushes_safari_to_itunes_and_quicktime_users.php">Apple pushing down Safari</a> to all Windows iTunes and Quicktime users.</p>
<p>If only we had a reusable system-wide XULRunner it would be really easy to do similar but less evil promotion of our growing XUL-based free software suite. Songbird could suggest to users that they might like Firefox &#8211; and it would take just a single click and a tiny XPI download to have users running Firefox. We could even get intelligent and suggest Thunderbird to heavy email users or Flock to heavy social networking users.</p>
<p>iTunes&#8217; US market share is around 27% (according to the best numbers I can find). If Apple flips the switch and makes Safari the default browser for all those users Firefox will start looking irrelevant fast.</p>
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		<title>What about Thunderbird?</title>
		<link>http://ianloic.com/2007/05/14/what_about_thunderbird/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian McKellar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/05/10/thoughts-on-mozilla/">In</a> <a href="http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/mitchell/archives/2007/05/xul_and_xulrunner_investment.html">all</a> <a href="http://shaver.off.net/diary/2007/05/14/lighting-a-candle/">this</a> <a href="http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2007/05/much-ado-about-xulrunner/">talk</a> about the future of XULRunner and Mozilla and Firefox nobody has mentioned Thunderbird. Can we just assume that Thunderbird is dead too?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/05/10/thoughts-on-mozilla/">In</a> <a href="http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/mitchell/archives/2007/05/xul_and_xulrunner_investment.html">all</a> <a href="http://shaver.off.net/diary/2007/05/14/lighting-a-candle/">this</a> <a href="http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2007/05/much-ado-about-xulrunner/">talk</a> about the future of XULRunner and Mozilla and Firefox nobody has mentioned Thunderbird. Can we just assume that Thunderbird is dead too?</p>
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