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		<title>Mozilla and WebKit, browser platform wars.</title>
		<link>http://ianloic.com/2009/03/04/mozilla-and-webkit-browser-platform-wars/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian McKellar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post began as a comment on Matthew Gertner&#8217;s blog post The Browser Platform Wars. It&#8217;s a rant not an article, don&#8217;t take it personally.

In my experience (8 years building Mozilla based products and playing with WebKit since it was first released as WebCore in 2003) there are a few clear technical and social differences [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This post began as a comment on Matthew Gertner&#8217;s blog post <a href="http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2009/03/04/the-browser-platform-wars/">The Browser Platform Wars</a>. It&#8217;s a rant not an article, don&#8217;t take it personally.<br />
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<p>In my experience (8 years building <a href="http://www.hiptop.com/">Mozilla</a> <a href="http://www.flock.com/">based</a> <a href="http://getsongbird.com/">products</a> and playing with WebKit since it was <a href="http://lists.kde.org/?l=kfm-devel&amp;m=104197092318639&amp;w=2">first released</a> as WebCore in 2003) there are a few clear technical and social differences that can make <a href="http://www.webkit.org/">WebKit</a> a more attractive platform for developers than <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/">Mozilla</a>. There are plenty of reasons that <a href="http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/">Firefox</a> is a better <em>product</em> than <a href="http://www.apple.com/safari/">Safari</a> (I definitely prefer Firefox over Safari on my Mac), but that&#8217;s a different story.</p>
<p>The scale and complexity of the Mozilla codebase is daunting. Mozilla advocates will say that that&#8217;s because Mozilla provides more functionality, but the reality is that even if you don&#8217;t want all that functionality you still have to dig through and around it to get your work done. Much of the Mozilla platform is poorly documented, poorly understood and incomplete (the C++/JS binding security stuff was the most recent example I&#8217;ve looked at) while WebKit is smaller, simpler and newer. They use common c++ idioms instead of proprietary systems like XPCOM.</p>
<p>The scale of the Mozilla organization is also daunting. Mozilla&#8217;s web presence is vast and is filled with inaccurate, outdated content. Their <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/about/manifesto.en.html">goals</a> are vague and mostly irrelevant to developers. By contrast WebKit&#8217;s web site is simple and straight-forward. Its audience is developers, it sets out <a href="http://webkit.org/projects/goals.html">goals</a> that matter and make sense to developers, it <a href="http://webkit.org/coding/contributing.html">explains clearly</a> the process for participating and contributing in the project.</p>
<p>WebKit is designed for embedding. Within Apple there are several customers for the WebKit library &#8211; Desktop Safari, iPhone Safari, Dashboard, AppKit and more. Since WebKit already serves a variety of purposes it&#8217;s likely to work for other applications which third party developers will want to build. By comparison the Mozilla platform really only has one first-class customer &#8211; Firefox.</p>
<p>The WebKit community has welcomed non-employee contributors. They&#8217;ve even welcomed contributors who work for Apple&#8217;s competitors. There are WebKit reviewers from <a href="http://webkit.org/blog/354/darin-fisher-is-a-webkit-reviewer/">Google</a>, <a href="http://webkit.org/blog/300/tor-arne-vestb%C3%B8-is-a-webkit-reviewer/">Nokia</a> and the open source community. By comparison, Songbird and Flock don&#8217;t have any Mozilla committers or reviewers who weren&#8217;t previously Mozilla Corporation employees even though they are two of the largest non-MoCo platform customers.</p>
<p>Perhaps I&#8217;m short-sighted, but I don&#8217;t see a clear path forward for Mozilla in competing with WebKit as a platform for web content display. The long history of Mozilla have left them with a large, complicated codebase that&#8217;s not getting smaller. The rapid growth and defensive attitude of the organization (probably brought on by the Netscape / IE wars) has left it without a culture that welcomes friendly competition. I think that Mozilla&#8217;s focus on the product above the platform is the right decision for them. I&#8217;m just glad we have an alternative web content platform.</p>
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		<title>I told you so</title>
		<link>http://ianloic.com/2008/03/24/i-told-you-so/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian McKellar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Six months ago I predicted:
This kind of bundling is often done by the bad guys. If you install Appleâ€™s Quicktime codecs on Windows every update will trigger an iTunes install, even if you havenâ€™t installed iTunes. Iâ€™m sure theyâ€™ll do the same thing for Safari on Windows. Iâ€™m not sure what iTunesâ€™ market share on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ianloic.com/2007/08/01/mozillas_missed_opportunities/">Six months ago I predicted</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>This kind of bundling is often done by the bad guys. If you install Appleâ€™s Quicktime codecs on Windows every update will trigger an iTunes install, even if you havenâ€™t installed iTunes. Iâ€™m sure theyâ€™ll do the same thing for Safari on Windows. Iâ€™m not sure what iTunesâ€™ market share on Windows is but it seems to be significant. If all those users suddenly have Safari installed that could potentially cause a big shake-up in browser market share.</p></blockquote>
<p>On Friday there was a <a href="http://john.jubjubs.net/2008/03/21/apple-software-update/">minor</a> <a href="http://john.jubjubs.net/2008/03/23/on-competition/">shitstorm</a> on <a href="http://planet.mozilla.org/">planet.mozilla.org</a> about <a href="http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2008/03/apple_pushes_safari_to_itunes_and_quicktime_users.php">Apple pushing down Safari</a> to all Windows iTunes and Quicktime users.</p>
<p>If only we had a reusable system-wide XULRunner it would be really easy to do similar but less evil promotion of our growing XUL-based free software suite. Songbird could suggest to users that they might like Firefox &#8211; and it would take just a single click and a tiny XPI download to have users running Firefox. We could even get intelligent and suggest Thunderbird to heavy email users or Flock to heavy social networking users.</p>
<p>iTunes&#8217; US market share is around 27% (according to the best numbers I can find). If Apple flips the switch and makes Safari the default browser for all those users Firefox will start looking irrelevant fast.</p>
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		<title>The Sidekick ID and the iPhone</title>
		<link>http://ianloic.com/2007/04/13/the_sidekick_id_and_the_iphone/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ian McKellar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There were two interesting announcements today. First the Sidekick ID which had been previously leaked was formally announced and <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/13/sidekick-id-reviewed/">reviews</a> have started to show up. Secondly Apple <a href="http://www.apple.com/hotnews/">announced</a> that the OS X Leopard will ship three months late - <a href="http://daringfireball.net/2007/04/bottleneck">more than two years</a> after the previous release of OS X. This slip is being <a href="http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/321/leopard-isnt-the-problem">seen</a> as evidence that <a href="http://www.apple.com/">Apple</a> is having trouble building as many products at once as it wants to.

In the four years I was at <a href="http://www.danger.com/">Danger</a> we were building exactly one product at a time. We failed to separate the development of the hardware, the OS and the applications. Separating the client and server schedules was a slow and painful process. In the two years since I've left things seem to have improved. The fact that they're able to ship two products (even if they are quite similar) is really exciting. That Danger is succeeding where Apple, with their 30 years of experience, is beginning to stumble is cause for congratulations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were two interesting announcements today. First the Sidekick ID which had been previously leaked was formally announced and <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/13/sidekick-id-reviewed/">reviews</a> have started to show up. Secondly Apple <a href="http://www.apple.com/hotnews/">announced</a> that the OS X Leopard will ship three months late &#8211; <a href="http://daringfireball.net/2007/04/bottleneck">more than two years</a> after the previous release of OS X. This slip is being <a href="http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/321/leopard-isnt-the-problem">seen</a> as evidence that <a href="http://www.apple.com/">Apple</a> is having trouble building as many products at once as it wants to.</p>
<p>In the four years I was at <a href="http://www.danger.com/">Danger</a> we were building exactly one product at a time. We failed to separate the development of the hardware, the OS and the applications. Separating the client and server schedules was a slow and painful process. In the two years since I&#8217;ve left things seem to have improved. The fact that they&#8217;re able to ship two products (even if they are quite similar) is really exciting. That Danger is succeeding where Apple, with their 30 years of experience, is beginning to stumble is cause for congratulations.</p>
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